Re: [dnsext] Working group workflow

[Andrew Sullivan <ajs@shinkuro.com>]

Dear colleagues,

On Tue, Dec 09, 2008 at 11:48:27PM +0100, Roy Arends wrote:
> There has been no objection since then, and the document reflected this, 
> until recently. I _have_ reviewed the document in october 2007. I call 
> that early, not late.

I should have known better than to try to link this thread to a
current example, and for that I apologise.  I similarly apologise to
anyone who might think I was trying to single them out for criticism
about their role in any current arguments.  And I don't want to
discuss the particulars of who did what when in this thread: we have
another thread for that.

What I was attempting to point out is still my main concern here,
which is that we have a serious workflow problem in the working
group.  The SHA-2 document is not the only recent example I can think
of where Olafur or I (or both) has asked (not to say "pleaded with")
the participants of the working group for responses on specific
issues.  Those messages frequently seem not to garner responses.

To me, that is a serious issue.  We have recently committed to taking
on Ray Bellis's draft, and we appear to have plans to open the forgery
resilence work again.  It's one thing just to say we're not going to
do the work.  It's quite another to agree to do the work, and then not
follow through.  Unfortunately, as I am painfully aware, "following
through" includes monitoring documents in which you have an interest
right until the end.  This is especially true in a WG like this one,
where we have large numbers of people who show up in WG meetings at
the IETF, but a tiny handful of people willing to address issues on
list, review documents, &c.  We're supposed to be a working group, not
a spectator sport.  If the work isn't getting done, I say again that
it isn't clear to me that it is worth it for us to do.

Again, I apologise for distracting us with the details of a particular
example.  

Best regards,

Andrew

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Andrew Sullivan
ajs@shinkuro.com
Shinkuro, Inc.

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